Music and Talking
This piece explores how James Frey likes to write.
I spent ten years teaching myself to write. I spent ten years trying to find my voice. I spent ten years alone in front of a computer scratching my head, kicking my desk, yelling at the wall. Throughout that time, one of my goals was to remove any and all signs of obvious influence from my work. I did not want to be a clone. I did not want to be the next version of someone else. I did not want to be a copy artist. I wanted to be the first me. I wanted to write in a voice that was new and different, consistent with the voice that I felt in my heart, consistent with the voice that I heard in my head.
Two things led me to that voice. Two things influenced me more than any individual writer or book or series of books. The two things were not obvious to me at first, and were things that I took for granted. The two things are music and talking.
As I write, I work with a simple formula: where was I, who was I with, what happened, how did it make me feel. The first three parts of this formula – where was I, who was I with, what happened – are the facts. They are usually simple and inform the reader as to the basics of any given situation. The fourth part – how did it make me feel – is what is most important to me. I believe that feelings, physical or emotional, define any individual’s state of existence. Feelings are what makes us human, and they are what makes the experience of life unique and worthwhile. In my work I try to express my feelings as simply and honestly and effectively as I can, with the goal being that the reader will come to an understanding of my state of existence at any given time. If I am in pain, I want the reader to be in pain. If I feel joy, I want the reader to feel joy. If I feel sick, I want to make the reader sick.
In order to do this, I needed to feel what I was writing about as I was writing about it. If I cried in the book, I was usually crying as I sat at my computer. If I was angry in the book, I was angry as I wrote, and I pounded the keys of my keyboard and swore to myself and sometimes screamed. If I was violent in the book, I was violent at my desk, that violence usually expressing itself in the breaking of glass or smashing of plastic cups. Because the events in my book took place many years ago, I almost always needed to manipulate myself into the proper state of mind. To do that I listen to music. All sorts of music. Happy music, sad music, cheesy music, angry music. I listen to beautiful music and repulsive music, music that I don’t understand, music that confuses me. I listen to hardcore punk, gangster rap, heavy metal, love songs, the latest teenage pop hits, classical symphonies, classic rock, opera, jazz, disco, new wave from the eighties, funk from seventies. I have a two thousand song library of music on my computer and it is always on while I write. I flip from song to song as I work, always searching for the closest match to whatever it is I am trying to express. When I can’t find specific songs to help me, I listen to Bob Dylan. When Dylan doesn’t help, I usually take a break.
After music, the second most important influence on my work is talking. I don’t talk to other people, I talk myself. As I compose sentences, I talk them through before I set them down. Sometimes I only need to say something once. Sometimes twice. Sometimes five or six or ten or twenty times, I speak my sentences over and over and over, I speak them aloud until they are correct. I do this for three reasons. The first reason is because I believe that my speaking voice is my most authentic voice, and it is the closest and most accurate expression of my thoughts. Though I allow myself to refine it through repetition, the spoken word forces me to listen to what would come out of me naturally, and it helps me capture it.
The second reason I talk is rhythm. There is a rhythm to speech that is different from the rhythms of most writing. It is an easier rhythm, a more natural rhythm. It is a rhythm that is closer to the rhythm I feel inside me. Talking, and transcribing my speech allows me to capture that rhythm more easily than if I didn’t talk. It forces the natural rhythm of my speech on the page and removes what I consider a false written rhythm.
The third reason for talking to myself is so I can write realistic dialogue. In my view, most books don’t have realistic dialogue. They have clunky, writerly dialogue that is slowed down and encumbered with proper spellings and correct grammar. If read out loud, the dialogue sounds stupid and formal. I don’t use quotes and I couldn’t care less about grammar. I have conversations with myself where I put myself into the frame of the individual characters, and I literally speak for them. This allows me, I believe, to write dialogue that is accurate and realistic. It is what a person would actually say, instead of what a writer might have them say through writing. There is a difference.
If anyone were to ever watch me write, they would probably think I was either an idiot or lunatic or both. I dance, I yell, I throw shit and kick shit and break shit. Sometimes I cry and sometimes I shake and sometimes I’m sick. I talk through all of it, say the same sentences over and over and over.
While writing this essay, every single word was spoken before it was written, most of them several times. I listened to Bruce Springsteen, Anthrax, Run DMC, Taj Mahal, Queen, Journey and Debbie Gibson.
James,
Firstly, I want to tell you that “A Million Little Peices” was, for me, one of the most gripping, inspiring, and uniquely written books I have ever read.
I picked it up and but basically didn’t put it down until it was finished. Cliche I know, but it truly was done within hours.
Your writing grabs. Your dialogue flows so much more real than conventional authors. It has a similarity to a Jack Kerouac style, but you have a tone that is particularly yours.
I felt bad about all the press concerning the AMLP ‘memoir’ debate. I will tell you that to me, it mattered none. When you are a genius and extremely popular (Oprah nonetheless), people look to make headlines. No worries.
After AMLP, I read My Freind Leonard, and loved it – so couldn’t wait for your new book.
I am only a few pages into “Bright Shiny Morning” and then had to stop and send you a message on your blog – congrats – I’m a huge fan. Keep being unique. Hope you continue to put out new material.
I just finished ‘a million tiny pieces’ and was absolutely blown away. I am not a well bred reader of the classics etc but I know what I like and I loved this book. I was totally drawn in by the intensity of the writing and found myself reading aloud to my husband, wanting to the share the brilliance. Don’t know much about the ‘hooha’ which is happening, must be more a USA thing, I’m british living in England but any focus is good focus and as for those bad critics fuck ‘em.
I wanted to say thank you to James for giving me the greatest gift of the written word and many well spent hours.
James…your bookes are page turners. To hell with the press and what they say. In the end what really counts is your incredible tallent for capturing moments into words and creating emotions in people who will never meet you. I dont cry, for who many reasons. Sometimes I want to but I cant. When I read your books, I cry without hesitation…
Please dont stop writing because I dont know what I will do when I have finished all your books.
Zarina
Hi,
Just finished reading Bright Shiny Morning about 5 minutes ago… one of the most powerful, moving, disturbing, entertaining books i’ve read. Keep up.
Best,
Danielle
Montreal
i also just finished reading Bright Shiny Morning. I freaking devoured that book it was so genius and inspiring. i seriously could not get enough of it!!! now i’ll have to back track to A Million Little Pieces.
funny–i wrote the other day about how much music inspires my thoughts and writing and gets the creative juices flowing. don’t know if you’ve read any Donald Miller but he always leaves soundtracks in the back of his books of the music that especially inspired him during the writing process and i always like that about him.
anyhow–all of this is to say that you are exceedingly gifted and please please please! keep on writing. the way you write is infectious.
WoW!
So intense and so heart breaking…A Million Little Pieces.
Thank you for such a great read, as for the press it does not influence how I felt about your story. To have and be able to communicate and articulate what you have is amazing. Keep up the good work!
James Frey,
Thank you for “speaking on paper”, and dispensing with all of the literary trappings that do not constitute a good book anyway.
I am reading Bright Shiny Morning and as soon as I started reading the first page, I felt that smile wash over my face.
You know the feeling you get when you were in junior high and somebody liked the same obscure band you did, and you were thinking, thank god somebody gets it. lame or not, it was a good feeling.
there’s not too many of those feelings as the years pass, but your book is one of them.
thank you.
rachel
Hi my name is Tara and im a sophomore in high school. I just finished reading A Million Little Pieces and am just starting a project for my class. I really loved the book and was hoping to be able to ask James some questions over the phone or email, but I don’t know how to contact him. Any information to help me out is greatly appreciated :]
Thanks,
Tara
If you Mr.Frey (I feel like I know cause I read you but can`t seem to call you James) if you are actually reading this,
I have a couple of questions for you.
I`ve been trying to finish a play. Before that I was trying to start it. I did that. Am happy about that, and proud cause it was hard. Now I`m trying to finish it. This has been going on for over a year and a half. The truth is more like two years. I just love it.I love writing. It. I love the story and where it`s going. I can`t seem to stop, let it go, start a new. Feels like I could write it forever. But I WANT to finish it, FEEL like it IS. Plus I`m putting other ideas on hold till I finish this one. Wich might be a form of procrastination really. Anyway.
So.
How do you know when to stop? I know that painters say that there comes a moment when you have to just stop leave it alone.
Does it ever feel perfectly right? Not perfect but right. The way you wanted it to be.
If you can answer this it would nice. If not, that`s ok too. I might find the answers by DOING it. I just thought it would be really interesting to read what you have to say.
Thanks for having the courage to find speak and write your real voice and for inspiring me to work on my own.
Nina.
Hi James,
I just wanted to point out that “A Million Little Pieces” was for me an absolute pleasure to read.
As a “bookworm”,I read about 5-8 books a month, and yours was by far the best book I have read. You writing style is so unique that I just couldn’t put it down. Job well done!
I have been reading avidly since the age of 4 – I am now 56. I read anything and everything from the greatest classical works to the literary prize winners, to Mills and Boon. Without a doubt, your books A million little pieces (which I bought because I liked the cover!)and Leonard (because I HAD to know what happened next) are by far my most favourite books – I laughed, I cried (a lot), was anxious, was thrilled.
I read both books, cover to cover over a weekend and then re-read them the next weekend.
Thank you for being you!
The way you write is outstanding james.!!!
The most disturbing part was reading about lilly and her cruel life.i cried alot and felt sick at how she was used.least she is at peace now.please keep writing!!!
Dear James,
I really enjoyed your book a million little pieces. I am a recovered addict and although I was slightly disappointed that your story was not a biography, I believe my disappointment was founded in my passion for biographies and my desire to escape from myself through titillating stories about other people’s woes!
I read your book to remind myself about the shit that happens when a person is in addictive addiction and using. And although perhaps all those things didn’t happen to you, they certainly do happen to people who are active in addiction. I can say this with confidence because I have spent 15 years in the rooms of AA and NA. I have also been to rehab twice and the overall description you provide of rehab joints and the emotions one feels while being in rehab is very consistent with my own experience.
For myself, the was a great “remember when I was like that” reminder and I would recommend it for any recovering addict who can get past the fact that perhaps not every word is actually biographical.
I also thoroughly enjoyed my friend Leonard.
All the best to you in your continued sobriety!
Ellen B.
Hi James,
I haven’t been reading books for quite sometime now (5 years..now i don’t know if that is “quite” sometime) until I stumbled to your A Million Little Pieces book lying on my friend’s bed. I tried to read the 1st few pages, got interested, and the next thing i know the book landed in my room. for the first time after 5 years, i started reading…AGAIN
and will do it AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN…your story is truly awesome!
i’m done with My Friend Leonard, and again bravo to you! whatever fiction/non-fiction you had in your books don’t matter anymore.
i am leaving for the US (for good) soon (before sept this year) and i hope to meet you and your family. sounds ambitious, but i’m serious!
all the best for you, your work, and your family!
Lay from the Philippines
What you think, how you feel, how you say what we hear how we feel your way connects us like no one else can thank you with all my heart.
a second of freedom is worth more than a lifetime of bondage – your books have helped me make some difficult choices. i can only thankyou enough for the journey your books have taken me on.
Thank you!
it took you ten years to find your voice, but it’ll take the world eternities to make you shut up.
i read a million little pieces and my friend leonard and it honestly changed my life even knowing that some of it was fabricated. The stuff he added or changed into his books made it for the better and when oprah(who is completely wrong) is basically stating that james conned people that is totally idiotic because even if it was a fiction book it could have still changed someones life. The inspiration in the stories and the way he writes and makes you picture whats going on perfectly is amazing.
GO JAMES FREY KEEP UP THE FUCKING AMAZING WORK!
I am a voracious reader. I absolutely loved A Million Little Pieces. It was a raw story told from the heart. You are very gifted. It is one of the few books that I will re-read.
Dear James,
A Million Little Pieces changed my life.
Thanks.
Truly Lilly.
And no im not faking my name just cuz it was in the fucking book. My name is Lilly, IMO Lilly, this is Lilly. But not the fucking one from the book. Durrrr.
Anyway, love you james, thanks.
I’m sending the introduction to my book, in the hope that it might cross James’ desk. I’m another survivor who lived to tell the story:
When I was growing up, the last thing my parents wanted me to do was to play the electric guitar. That made it irresistible to me.” Pat Matheny
PRELUDE
“You have a lot of lawyers in your life, don’t you?”
Okay, I’d never met her before, but my friend Jeffrey told me she was the best psychic in town. The real deal. When Jeffrey made statements like that, you knew better than to question. And here she was, proving him true already.
Three months before, I found myself sitting at a conference table in a stark fishbowl of a room on the fifteenth floor of a downtown Phoenix high rise. The guests at this legal banquet were: my new bankruptcy attorney, my new tax attorney, my new tax attorney’s boss (the owner of the firm occupying this entire floor), my new accountant, and my new best friend, a non-practicing Manhattan lawyer who found my situation dire enough to make it her Project. I was the main course at this feast, dressed and parsleyed for the platter, poised for those carving knives to sink right in.
At what point did the magnificent disaster that had become my life earn me this new, wildly expensive table of friends?
Was it the moment my Creative Partner called from outside the cavernous space that was soon to become my exquisite folly, saying “I’ve found our next store….”?
Or – the passing away of my ace comptroller, Gary, and my long-time accountant and advisor, Stanley, within months of each other?
Or – was it the day I hired that voluptuous Southern Belle with the accounting resume touting her expertise in the arena of TAXES?
Or – could it have been one of those buying trips to the Paris Pret a Porter, the New York Atelier show, or that superlative Fine Craft Exhibit in Baltimore?
The purchase of the New York pied a terre?
The downtown loft worthy of a Phoenix Home & Garden eight-page spread?
The photography shoot in Berlin?
The dizzying Spousal Support payments that my ex-in-laws chased me down for, even after his death?
Just where did the first domino lose its balance in the breeze?
It hardly matters now, except for my gratitude for all of it. Every last tortuous moment, every person who participated in my Fall from Grace. Every last sleepless night and weak, fear-thin breath. Ask me where I’ve been. I can tell you. Ask me where I am. I’m here with Tina, now. Ask me where I’m going. Who can ever answer that question? Ask me what’s important.
Keep reading. We’ll get there together.
1. Crack in the Universe
Hello Mr. Frey,
I saw the second part of your interview with Oprah today and I must say without, sounding condescending, that you really redeemed yourself. I’m sorry to say that I was not familiar with you or your work before the first interview and as of today I am still not with regard to your books. But as of today I plan on changing that. I was refreshed by your Agnostic beliefs, if I may be so bold, as I to have felt the same way for many years and only until last year was finally able to own it. Even though I do not feel you were being arrogant in any way, I got the feeling and now after reading this page and the best advice you ever received, I have gathered that it is youself for whom you write. How were you able to embody this courage in your early days, when the thought of making this your sole job/career had to be weaving itself throughout your mind as you placed pen to paaper in the hopes of creating what you now call ‘Great Literature’? I have written(unplublished) off and on all of my life starting with diaries, poetry, short stories, and now back to journaling, and yet the word writer still gets caught in my throat every time I try to own it. How did you come to own your profession even before it was one? You say that your faith comes from believing that you know you know how to tell a good story? How did you know? Was it as simple as faking it untill you make it? I would love to come into my own as a writer but I fear it will never happen if I don’t get over needing to please the audience. And even more than that I feel sick about what stories I will not have been able to share because of this.
Hi,
I am trying to write a memoir and I would like help. I heard you have a new group of people that your working with that can help. Where can I get more info? Its a UNBELIEVABLE STORY that is true and keeps on going. I would like to share and help others.
Hi Mr. Frey,
I am a writer from Iraq. I followed the two parts of your interview with Operah and I liked your thoughts and ideas. I always believe that is different from the others who are sharing with him life. He/ she is making the dreams touchable for those who lost their way to the world of dreams. I saw that you are a man who is keeping try in order not to lose his game no matter what. I understand writing as a struggle to prove that you are there or still breathing.. During that interview with Operah, I was watching the way your thoughts coming together in order to say something others do not understand.. two later after the interview, I started googling you to know more and more. Just to inform you that I am working now on my own book which its theme is occuping my mind and trying to let it out. This is my main goal at this very moment.
Thanks a lot for your time.
Best regards,
Ferdous ALabadi
Iraq
James: I must say I was fascinated with A Million Little Pieces and have read your other 2 books, the last one being very informative, to the point, realistic and also fascinating.
Like you, and because of my background I have learned that the path of ones life doesn’t have to follow the line of expectations,because life is full of variants for each individual and as long a we do not follow malice, one can apply expectations based on ones needs and experiences,therefore, to those who don’t understand, I could also be labeled as a rebel like you. I was infuriated, to say the least, when Oprah interviewed you with the only purpose of destroying the value of a book which became so beneficial to many people. Although she has apologized, in my view, the damage was done and there is no way to repair or erase the unfairness of her first interview and the moral destruction of yourself. Those are never forgotten. My website is the one of my own memoir “A Random Figurine”. Born in London during WWll, I was abandoned by my birth mother spending the first 5 years in a convent and adopted at that age by a Cuban family, exiling when I was 18 and living in USA since then. My search for my roots which took me 30 years and my experiences with those who cared for me are the main subjects of my book. I will be honored if you would read it and give me your impression. The book was not edited because I wanted it to reflect what really came out of me, therefore, not being an experienced writer, there are some flaws I can’t correct, but my intention was to grasp the reader with the truth and nothing but the truth. If interested I gladly will mail you a copy and please do so by contacting me through my E=mail. Music is my passion and I also use it for inspiration of the words and feelings of the moment. Be proud of who you are, many like me understand you. By the way, I sent a copy to Oprah and never received a response, not even an acknowledgment of receipt. Your admirer, Susan
James: I forgot to mention I used a pen name as the author of my memoir which is Susannah D. McCallum. Thanks
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I need James Frey’s literary advice ASAP…
About three or four years ago, I began the arduous task of writing a memoir that I have literally put my heart and soul into it. I am actively in the process of putting the finishing touches on my manuscript called “Hiding In Plain Sight.†The title itself is as loaded as its content. It is like nothing I (or probably most people) have ever read or seen in the literary marketplace before.
My book is not about scandal or tawdry exploits of…nor is it just a cautionary tale about someone (African-American) living in stealth – whom happens to be a male to female transgendered person that is fortunate enough to work, live, love and date as the opposite sex without detection – but more so on the lines of how “normal†people often keep extraordinary secrets, not only from society at large, but from their peers, neighbors, friends, family and even close loved ones out of fear of judgment and ridicule.
I want “Hiding in Plain Sight” to have a cathartic feel to it—to be more than just a coming – out story or a mere confessional. I want it to show that there are legions of so called/self proclaimed “normal†people living amongst us whom are hiding/leading/living double lives (in most cases having nothing to do with gender or sexuality issues) and how it inevitably and ultimately takes a toll on oneself.
I am writing this book at a moment in my life where the mask that I thought I had perfected, carefully crafted – and had been proudly wearing – has become too heavy and cumbersome. I have found myself reaching a low point that has triggered deep emotional issues that developed from years of low self-esteem/self-image before, during and after transitioning as well as the lack of self-acceptance about being transgendered and the realization that I am, unflinchingly, who I am – despite societal/cultural objections – and that there is no shame in that reality of being true to myself in any form or fashion.
Sadly, these are frequent problems for those living a deep stealth of any kind. From these depths, I’ve had a profound revelation: The amount of energy it takes to conceal my past has always weakened any earnest attempts at me becoming a whole person and being implicitly true to who I am. I have come to realize that I can no longer look at my past as being my kryptonite, but rather, owning/harnessing it and using it as an instrument that will/could inevitably and hopefully empower people from different walks of life, giving them the strength and conviction to live an abundant life, devoid of fear of discovery.
I’m choosing to be explicitly candid about my difficulties with deep stealth and self-esteem and to convey to all of mankind that we as human beings are in fact, more alike that unlike, despite racial, religious, gender and/or cultural differences. In “Hiding in Plain Sightâ€, each chapter has cleverly interwoven examples of different scenarios. People I have met along my life’s journey, like for example; a beautiful, young, brunette psychotherapist I met years ago, at the helm of her own medical practice in Washington, DC, whom secretly, unbeknownst to her new husband, was a borderline alcoholic whom was molested for years by both her father and older brother… and how it colored her life; making her life a complete dichotomy. There are other examples that I cite in each chapter that ring true to the old adage: you can’t judge a book by its cover.
I have been very fortunate to possess certain physical traits and/or natural feminine attributes that most people consider to be attractive which have conversely led to me having such a colorful life, but my story goes beyond any societal imposed labels and/or stereotypes. I gone on to date some very fascinating men over the last decade of my thirty-four year old existence; one man in particular, in a shipping magnate and is rather famous. Ultimately, I even get married, pursuing that very natural desire to find companionship and love.
Hopefully I am presenting an inspirational story of the survivor in us all, of the self-esteem we all possess once we get past all of the shame and the doubt of one of the most important aspects of who we truly are. Needless to say, that this book is my gift to humanity. This is a unique story that needs to be told. America and The World is ready for my story – and I feel it in every fiber of my being!
With all that having been said, I have truly admired and respected your great contributions to storytelling and your extensive body of work over the years and consider you – above and beyond all of your tremendous accomplishments and accolades – as being a true humanitarian in every since of the word.
I am hoping that you could somehow empathize/sympathize with my plight and intentions and would be able to assist me with navigating through the cluttered, confusing and cutthroat literary world in order to give “Hiding in Plain Sight†the exposure and proper backing it deserves. Where do I start?
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